Comments on: Thousands Need To Stand Up and Be Counted http://www.anandaclaritymagazine.com/2009/12/kriyananda-renunciate-god-joy/ Spiritual teachings and practices for every-day living Tue, 24 Jan 2012 03:41:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Nayaswami Nakin http://www.anandaclaritymagazine.com/2009/12/kriyananda-renunciate-god-joy/comment-page-1/#comment-1131 Nayaswami Nakin Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:42:49 +0000 http://www.anandaclaritymagazine.com/?p=5530#comment-1131 Dear Eric, In the book Nayaswami Kriyananda does not make Tyaga dependent on celibacy, only that the couple be committed to gradually decreasing the level of sexual activity. Celibacy is expected of couples that become nayaswamis but not tyagis. I hope this is helpful. Joy to you, Nayaswami Nakin Dear Eric,

In the book Nayaswami Kriyananda does not make Tyaga dependent on celibacy, only that the couple be committed to gradually decreasing the level of sexual activity. Celibacy is expected of couples that become nayaswamis but not tyagis. I hope this is helpful.

Joy to you,
Nayaswami Nakin

]]> By: Eric Elbers http://www.anandaclaritymagazine.com/2009/12/kriyananda-renunciate-god-joy/comment-page-1/#comment-1074 Eric Elbers Sun, 03 Jan 2010 04:59:25 +0000 http://www.anandaclaritymagazine.com/?p=5530#comment-1074 I applaud Nayaswami Kriyanda for proposing a new order of renunciates. Indeed very welcome and timely in this age. I have a question which centers around the subject of brahmacharya, meaning: "walking in Brahma", or "walking in the creative force of God". Brahmacharya is commonly translated to mean celibacy, but is not by every one understood to mean only that. The preservation and cultivation of the creative life force, the sexual energy, can either be in celibacy or in tantric sexual relations. Both modes of behaviour I have been taught produce the same outcome, for both involve preservation and cultivation of sexual energy upward into the divine processes rising in the nervous system through advanced yoga practices. For obvious reasons Yogananda advocated celibacy for his unmarried renunciates, but it is less clear why the same holds true for disciples who are married or in a stable, loving relationship. Obviously both modes of behaviour carry risks and require great discipline, but it appears to me that the tantric sexual path is the more natural path to follow for a married couple in a stable, loving relationship. I have been a practitioner of yoga and meditation for nearly forty years and lately have been attracted to follow the sublime teachings of Paramhansa Yogananda, and join his order of disciples. I love God and seek to know Him more deeply. I seek human perfection through the path of yoga. That is why I welcomed the new renunciates order. However regretfully I see that I do not qualify since my wife and I would have to observe celibacy as members of the Tyagi order. The likely consequences of that remind me of a comment I read on the web by a married woman who stated: "I hate the Self Realization Fellowship since it has destroyed my marriage". [Because of its rules on sexual behaviour.] I am sure that Nayaswami Kriyananda must has carefully considered and sought guidance re. this controversial subject matter. But a discussion about the two meanings of brahmacharya and why a loving couple following the tantric path of brahmacharya is disqualified to join the new order would be helpful. Sincerely, Eric Elbers. I applaud Nayaswami Kriyanda for proposing a new order of renunciates. Indeed very welcome and timely in this age. I have a question which centers around the subject of brahmacharya, meaning: “walking in Brahma”, or “walking in the creative force of God”. Brahmacharya is commonly translated to mean celibacy, but is not by every one understood to mean only that. The preservation and cultivation of the creative life force, the sexual energy, can either be in celibacy or in tantric sexual relations. Both modes of behaviour I have been taught produce the same outcome, for both involve preservation and cultivation of sexual energy upward into the divine processes rising in the nervous system through advanced yoga practices. For obvious reasons Yogananda advocated celibacy for his unmarried renunciates, but it is less clear why the same holds true for disciples who are married or in a stable, loving relationship. Obviously both modes of behaviour carry risks and require great discipline, but it appears to me that the tantric sexual path is the more natural path to follow for a married couple in a stable, loving relationship.
I have been a practitioner of yoga and meditation for nearly forty years and lately have been attracted to follow the sublime teachings of Paramhansa Yogananda, and join his order of disciples. I love God and seek to know Him more deeply. I seek human perfection through the path of yoga. That is why I welcomed the new renunciates order. However regretfully I see that I do not qualify since my wife and I would have to observe celibacy as members of the Tyagi order. The likely consequences of that remind me of a comment I read on the web by a married woman who stated: “I hate the Self Realization Fellowship since it has destroyed my marriage”. [Because of its rules on sexual behaviour.]
I am sure that Nayaswami Kriyananda must has carefully considered and sought guidance re. this controversial subject matter. But a discussion about the two meanings of brahmacharya and why a loving couple following the tantric path of brahmacharya is disqualified to join the new order would be helpful.
Sincerely,
Eric Elbers.

]]> By: marco http://www.anandaclaritymagazine.com/2009/12/kriyananda-renunciate-god-joy/comment-page-1/#comment-1068 marco Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:40:53 +0000 http://www.anandaclaritymagazine.com/?p=5530#comment-1068 I feel this part very interesting: "One’s concentration, in other words, is on the joy of soul-freedom in God.The real delusion to overcome is the bondage of ego-identity Freedom from ego-consciousness, therefore, is the primary direction I envision for true renunciation.I state urgently that mankind very desperately needs our new renunciate order" Thank you I feel this part very interesting:
“One’s concentration, in other words, is on the joy of soul-freedom in God.The real delusion to overcome is the bondage of ego-identity Freedom from ego-consciousness, therefore, is the primary direction I envision for true renunciation.I state urgently that mankind very desperately needs our new renunciate order”
Thank you

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